ape - banned

Name: ape
Date: 19/10/09
Who banned you: -L|L-JONNY-BB
Reason: Whallhack
Explanation: I dont use any cheats

I answer to this topic on the behalf of Jonny, the guy who spotted your wallhack. I also had my part on spectating you and witnessing your hoax.

The thing is you used wallhack on LL2 server. You will be unable to continue playing in LL servers, and please don't show your ass never again in any of our servers. That'd be more than helpful for us.

http://www.speedshare.org/download.php?id=F59695A711 <- demo is there, use /r_shownormals 1 when you guys watch it.

Happy hacking hacker!

ps. Jonny told me to answer. So I'm allowed to answer. :> Muah.

You make a big mistake people.

Hehe. How is that again? I think, I just THINK that you are aware of that we don't like cheaters. And don't even think about unban.

We have our proofs about you cheating, you have proofs that you weren't cheating?

Rain, pain in ure ass.

I am playing in PB servers with like the same stats as I have hear in L|L 2. When I play I always have my sound on and not on that low, So I can hear walk the enemy. Pleas dude I am NO cheater..
I cant watch demo's dunno why but one thing is for sure I am no cheater,

Maybe lets wait for other reply's


sorry for my english

Uuh sorry not convinced. I'm well known that punkbuster doesn't catch all cheaters.

ape, do you use headset?

Yes of couse I use a headset

yeah, most of the situations were based by the sound, ya heard mp40, from that room, ya run there, etc... i do so too when i use headset not subwoofer xD

but i dunno, some places are questionable, will check the video again later, atm busy.

are there other demos?
ye if not show us some suspicious moment
for example that LMAO part wasnt wallhack at all

he kill one heard shots and aim on the "broken window" point

about that thing with nahadu was one part where u might tell wallhack - but wallhack demos aint based on one action only

unknown event: 65

after 3 seconds...

anyway, rain, maybe ease up on public conviction especially when there seems to be people who are not so convinced about the demo as you happen to be.

ps. why wasnt this demo posted on private forum first (like we agreed while back)?

I wasn't the guy who banned him =)

Jonny told me to post demo to unbanrequest.

Anyways sorry for being so enthusiastic about this case. :E

Same as funky...

Unknow error : 65 (after 3 sec)

So plz post a viewable demo quickly... otherwise without real proof i will unban him from LL1...

Yep, you need only correct version of that mod(nq 1.2.3) and that map where demo has taken to watch demo. Sometimes when you start to watch demo, it disconnect after some seconds. Then just connect to server where demo was taken, disconnect and watch demo then.

And imo clean


You ar not allowed to post here

Ha Ha! Finaly loged

Connect LL2, disconnect, run replay.

Demo is clear, Enjoy.

Well... It's hard to say. When I have been looking the demo in start I was sure it's a wallhack aspecially when enemy was near the the pillar andApe was behind boxes..... But later at the end I was not sure...... So hard to say Oo. But good cheater can controll his hacks....

I spoke with saby and she agree with me.

I dunno exactly what to say but one thing is for sure I am NO cheater :/

Some ppl can really great cover with WH, but sometimes they just forgot for a while- and there we can see theirs mistakes... but i wont tell what i think coz demo still dnt work O_o its probably my laptop, but i will try again. Cheers

it's probably not your laptop fault Just connect to LL2 and then leave and then launch the demo. And it will work :>

Ok well,
On the first replay me & leth have serious doubt about this proof of wallhack...
It take me some time to review that demo in detail & slow motion.... (i'm too busy in the week) : and the result is for me there's no real proof of wallhack here... only one or two little suspicious moment which can be explained by coincidences only...
We (me & leth) have also ask advices from several experienced players who all think same as us...

So the permban on all servers seems really unjustify here : that's why me & leth have decided to unban Ape from LL1.
I suggest to the banner and others admins who think there is WH stuff to review the demo in detail and take their own decision.

Btw when admins want to permban a cheater on all servers (specially if the proof are not reliable at 100%), it should be better to ask advices to others experienced admins first, instead of doing wrong permban everywhere....

cant c any Demo ...only few moments....but sometimes thats enough

http://rapidshare.com/files/298142643/2009-10-19-094633-school.dm_84.html

he has imo.

mfg bong

Thanks Bong. At last now you guys believe? Check on that demo and say if he HAS NOT wh?

EDIT. AAhahahah this is so relaxing.. Watching this demo. <3

this sec video has changed my mind...